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	<title>Comments on: Chronic UI Turf War: we lose</title>
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	<description>Say Hello to the Voices in my Head</description>
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		<title>By: Mysstryst</title>
		<link>http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/archives/786#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>Mysstryst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 05:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol 

I&#039;m sorry....was the best I could do, given my underwhelming interest in ElvUi these days :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry&#8230;.was the best I could do, given my underwhelming interest in ElvUi these days <img src='http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Illume</title>
		<link>http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/archives/786#comment-1117</link>
		<dc:creator>Illume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 03:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trollerific.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trollerific.</p>
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		<title>By: Mysstryst</title>
		<link>http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/archives/786#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>Mysstryst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 02:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[File 404 - Care Not Found.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>File 404 &#8211; Care Not Found.</p>
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		<title>By: Illume</title>
		<link>http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/archives/786#comment-1114</link>
		<dc:creator>Illume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, who could see this coming?  I&#039;ve been building my own for years, and at the precise moment I go for a prebuilt, BOOM. 

If I were so inclined to try again (and I&#039;m not), nUI looks interesting and up to date.  And IF you want, ElvUI are still updating - just keeping it on their own website now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, who could see this coming?  I&#8217;ve been building my own for years, and at the precise moment I go for a prebuilt, BOOM. </p>
<p>If I were so inclined to try again (and I&#8217;m not), nUI looks interesting and up to date.  And IF you want, ElvUI are still updating &#8211; just keeping it on their own website now.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy</title>
		<link>http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/archives/786#comment-1112</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gah...

I&#039;ve been tied up in the D3 beta and Mists beta lately and have hardly even logged into live, so I have so far missed the snarky note from Elv. As much as I hate to say this, I&#039;ve done exactly what you warn against: I&#039;ve let myself become dependent on ElvUI. I suppose I could take the downtime between Cata and Mists as an opportunity to rebuild my own UI from scratch, but I love the plug-and-play aspect of ElvUI and I doubt I&#039;ll find that elsewhere. The prospect of burning down my UI and starting over from scratch just makes me want to cry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been tied up in the D3 beta and Mists beta lately and have hardly even logged into live, so I have so far missed the snarky note from Elv. As much as I hate to say this, I&#8217;ve done exactly what you warn against: I&#8217;ve let myself become dependent on ElvUI. I suppose I could take the downtime between Cata and Mists as an opportunity to rebuild my own UI from scratch, but I love the plug-and-play aspect of ElvUI and I doubt I&#8217;ll find that elsewhere. The prospect of burning down my UI and starting over from scratch just makes me want to cry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mysstryst</title>
		<link>http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/archives/786#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator>Mysstryst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 04:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, you&#039;ve talked me into it....it is a bit of a pain, not being able to go to the Faire and participate in the fun because BT4&#039;s action bars don&#039;t seem to make way for the &#039;action bars&#039; of the various Faire activities, which is a shame. It&#039;s probably an obscure setting I&#039;ve not noticed.

Will take a deep breath one day soon and dive into Dominoes. Glad it supports Button Facade, too. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, you&#8217;ve talked me into it&#8230;.it is a bit of a pain, not being able to go to the Faire and participate in the fun because BT4&#8242;s action bars don&#8217;t seem to make way for the &#8216;action bars&#8217; of the various Faire activities, which is a shame. It&#8217;s probably an obscure setting I&#8217;ve not noticed.</p>
<p>Will take a deep breath one day soon and dive into Dominoes. Glad it supports Button Facade, too. <img src='http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Illume</title>
		<link>http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/archives/786#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator>Illume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 04:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was dubious about Dominoes at the time, too - I had been using Bartender but after some patch or another it died and there was no sign of a fix (glad that got rectified). The setup was intially fairly alien to me, but eventually I got used to it and learned to make it work for me.  Otherwise the two are pretty much equivalent.  Both support ButtonFacade (or whatever it&#039;s called these days), both support that button timer addon, both deal well with tons of buttons. Just the setup process is different.  So if you find yourself in need, you could do a lot worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was dubious about Dominoes at the time, too &#8211; I had been using Bartender but after some patch or another it died and there was no sign of a fix (glad that got rectified). The setup was intially fairly alien to me, but eventually I got used to it and learned to make it work for me.  Otherwise the two are pretty much equivalent.  Both support ButtonFacade (or whatever it&#8217;s called these days), both support that button timer addon, both deal well with tons of buttons. Just the setup process is different.  So if you find yourself in need, you could do a lot worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Mysstryst</title>
		<link>http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/archives/786#comment-1085</link>
		<dc:creator>Mysstryst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 03:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I so wish I did have some gos for you, but alas, I&#039;m just another unimportant end user who&#039;s fed up with being on the pointy end of their &#039;bitch-stick&#039; and tanties (aussie for &#039;tantrums&#039;).

I love bartender and don&#039;t have any problems with it other than the Darkmoone Faire - it just has a bit of a spaz attack, but I can do without the Faire - it&#039;s a small price for me to pay.

Not familiar with Dominoes, although I have heard of it.  

At this point, I&#039;m a just a wee bit jaded at the prospect of trying something new. *sigh*  My time is already being wasted having to set up Bartender, X-Perl and all the other helpful addons I used to have, all over again, thanks to certain precious princesses over at ElvUi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so wish I did have some gos for you, but alas, I&#8217;m just another unimportant end user who&#8217;s fed up with being on the pointy end of their &#8216;bitch-stick&#8217; and tanties (aussie for &#8216;tantrums&#8217;).</p>
<p>I love bartender and don&#8217;t have any problems with it other than the Darkmoone Faire &#8211; it just has a bit of a spaz attack, but I can do without the Faire &#8211; it&#8217;s a small price for me to pay.</p>
<p>Not familiar with Dominoes, although I have heard of it.  </p>
<p>At this point, I&#8217;m a just a wee bit jaded at the prospect of trying something new. *sigh*  My time is already being wasted having to set up Bartender, X-Perl and all the other helpful addons I used to have, all over again, thanks to certain precious princesses over at ElvUi.</p>
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		<title>By: Illume</title>
		<link>http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/archives/786#comment-1084</link>
		<dc:creator>Illume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 03:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Out of curiosity, do you have any idea what was going on between the two?  Illy wants gossip!

Thanks for the comment on Bartender.  I had considered playing with it since I was starting fresh, but if it&#039;s got problems, I know for a fact that Dominoes does NOT, so I&#039;ll probably stick with that.  That&#039;ll save some time, thanks.

I&#039;m not going to rush to the defense of the ElvUI team, but I will point out that Curse has more than once engaged in skeevy behavior. They are very good at spreading FUD as fact and getting their way. As a result we have far fewer useful UI distribution sites, and that&#039;s not cool.

What I&#039;m saying is that there are prima donnas on all sides :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity, do you have any idea what was going on between the two?  Illy wants gossip!</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment on Bartender.  I had considered playing with it since I was starting fresh, but if it&#8217;s got problems, I know for a fact that Dominoes does NOT, so I&#8217;ll probably stick with that.  That&#8217;ll save some time, thanks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to rush to the defense of the ElvUI team, but I will point out that Curse has more than once engaged in skeevy behavior. They are very good at spreading FUD as fact and getting their way. As a result we have far fewer useful UI distribution sites, and that&#8217;s not cool.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is that there are prima donnas on all sides <img src='http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mysstryst</title>
		<link>http://wowblog.grimmlabs.com/archives/786#comment-1083</link>
		<dc:creator>Mysstryst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 02:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You, oh wise one, are so right.  Don&#039;t beat yourself up, though. You weren&#039;t the only one to be mistaken.  

I&#039;m fed up to the eye teeth with prima donna developers leading people on a not-so-merry song and dance - and ElvUi has been the worst of them all.

Besides, there never was much wrong with Bartender4 (if you don&#039;t mind that it&#039;s 100% glitchy inside the Darkmoon Faire, but, y&#039;know, I can handle that: I just don&#039;t go to the Faire).  

At least, I have to tell myself that, because I simply can&#039;t go back to the hideously insufficient, bulky, archaic-looking standard Blizz ui.

Now, now, it&#039;s no good people getting their knickers in a knot of self-righteous indignation to defend these little &#039;programming princesses&#039;, with their, &quot;but they developed these programs free of charge, you know, you should be grateful!&quot;, comments.  

Oh really?  In that case, here&#039;s my message of &#039;gratitude&#039; for them:

Go practice your 1st year student skills on someone else&#039;s time and sanity, sunshine, and leave serious gamers alone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You, oh wise one, are so right.  Don&#8217;t beat yourself up, though. You weren&#8217;t the only one to be mistaken.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m fed up to the eye teeth with prima donna developers leading people on a not-so-merry song and dance &#8211; and ElvUi has been the worst of them all.</p>
<p>Besides, there never was much wrong with Bartender4 (if you don&#8217;t mind that it&#8217;s 100% glitchy inside the Darkmoon Faire, but, y&#8217;know, I can handle that: I just don&#8217;t go to the Faire).  </p>
<p>At least, I have to tell myself that, because I simply can&#8217;t go back to the hideously insufficient, bulky, archaic-looking standard Blizz ui.</p>
<p>Now, now, it&#8217;s no good people getting their knickers in a knot of self-righteous indignation to defend these little &#8216;programming princesses&#8217;, with their, &#8220;but they developed these programs free of charge, you know, you should be grateful!&#8221;, comments.  </p>
<p>Oh really?  In that case, here&#8217;s my message of &#8216;gratitude&#8217; for them:</p>
<p>Go practice your 1st year student skills on someone else&#8217;s time and sanity, sunshine, and leave serious gamers alone.</p>
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